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“Niche Fishing” by Dirk Wagner

01 Jan

HORRIBLE. This was an ebook packaged with 2 camtasia videos and a bunch of prewritten scripts. The 160MB were mainly due to the size of the videos, not the value of the content.

My honest opinion? Waste of money! I just bought it for $15.05.

I was just curious to know what technique he used to make that number of sales. Well, I’ll tell you in just a few paragraphs without boring you to death, which was what he was doing to me!

First off, the ebook is in a PDF format and 46 pages long. It’s very poorly written and was probably put together in a day without too much thought.

Second, the videos… oh my, the videos. He seems to have used it for the first time and had trouble just talking. It almost sounded like he was reading a script but very slowly. Yeah, he eventually talked faster but he just rambled on about some non-sense things most people already know or he could have saved for in the ebook.

Let’s just put it this way, he was explaining how to do a search on a website owner by using a whois such as whois.godaddy.com and finding out the owner’s name and contact information. It took him 10 minutes. That just now took me 10 seconds.

The idea behind “niche fishing” is finding your niche market first THEN creating a product and selling to it. So what you do is do a search on the niche market you are interested in and find websites that have a lot of members or subscribers. You then find the website owner’s information and contact them to see if they are interested in a JV.

You offer them a 50-50 split, make sure they’re interested and tell them you’ll have the product ready in 7-10 days. I like the scripts he used for talking on the phone and sending an email… ’cause if I got a call like that or an email like that, I’d hang up and delete the email.

That’s my thoughts, but you’re more than welcome to figure it out on your own.

The concept behind it is good, but the production of it is in poor quality.

Here’s a copy of the email script:

Subject: Hi (Niche Site Owners name)! Sitename.com Question

Hi (Niche Site Owner’s Name)!

How would you like to earn more money with no effort on your part with your site http://www.sitename.com?

My name is _________ (Your name) and I work with a company that helps web-site owners make even more money by
developing products and services for their subscribers.

In 7 days, we will be finishing up a product your subscribers will be interested in and we want you to be one of the first people to get a copy.

If you like it, you can send a promotion to your list and earn 50% of the profits.

If you are interested in finding out more information, please send me your telephone number and the best time to return your call.


Your name
Your company

P.S. We are only offering this opportunity to a few website
owners, so call me at 123-123-1234 or e-mail me so we can get you set up.

Kevin Lam

Kevin Lam is a self-taught internet marketer, web developer and traffic conversion expert that started since he was 17 in 2000. Even throughout his 5 years in the Navy, Kevin continued to hone his skills. Kevin now owns multiple digital companies including a Strategic, Digital Marketing Firm, a Sales Funnel Concierge Service, General Support Company and other digital products.


  1. Dirk Wagner | January 5, 2007 at 1:18 pm

    Hi Kevin,

    this comment I only make to inform you that the niche fishing product wasn’t created by me.

    I only bought the resale rights and added it to my weekend deal ebfore I was able to watch the complete video since you know they are both very long and I ddin’t have had the time before my weekly deals start on Friday.

    You have written that you paid $15 for it? OK everybody has a different opinion about the course but what should people think who don’t pay the high discounted price at my website and pay the full price of $97 instead?

    Best wishes,


  2. Kevin Lam | January 5, 2007 at 1:32 pm

    Dirk, I appreciate you taking the time to even respond to my review. I respect that – really, I do.

    And no disrespect to you, but I firmly believe before I pass on a product to my friends and visitors with my name on it, I’d be sure to have thoroughly look through it myself no matter HOW busy I am.

    I purchased the item because it was a resell as well and I was hoping to use it as a fund raiser and give the money away to one of my members since she is facing some difficult times. But before I could do that, I had to read the ebook and look through the videos. That took a lot of my time, but I did it.

    I work 10-12 hour days, I come home to eat and back to work on my Internet business. I then still have to work out, do my home work, talk to my wife for an hour. So as you can see, time isn’t the problem. It’s setting priorities and establishing principles (not at all saying you don’t have any).

    I am not complaining about the measly $15 bucks, I was convecting the idea of how poorly developed it was. Like I said, the concept is sound, but the delivery needs work. That is all.

    It all comes down to this. We’re professionals and I think we should act like one. Yeah, we want to make some money, but is it worth passing on or recommending things you don’t know about? I’m sure you have a lot of people looking up to you. I don’t want you to lose their faith.

    And don’t worry, I’m not holding this against you. I figured it was just one bad product from you. I didn’t unsubscribe from your mailing list. Best wishes and take care.

  3. Vondre Whaley | January 8, 2007 at 8:10 pm

    Hey Kevin,

    I’ve never heard of you, but you indeed have a right to your opinion, which is opposite of most people who have purchased and used Niche Fishing.

    Many people who are starting in internet marketing value the step by step specific information. I also include many more tools for them to use in the course.

    Plus…..I am the “Real Deal.”

    I use niche fishing and other strategies to make a huge income on the internet and off the internet. I’m a serial entrepreneur who does not have to hide behind the computer.

    But again, your opinion is “only” your opinion.

    I hope your 2007 is a great one. It’s the year of AMAZING blessings!

    Who am I?

    The guy that wrote “niche fishing” and more than 60 other guys regarding marketing and sales.

    Oh yeah, thanks for the compliment.

    Most people don’t even bother to include phone scripts, e-mail, scripts, forms, and templates to insure your success when they create products.

    Good Success!


  4. Kevin Lam | January 9, 2007 at 10:24 am

    Indeed, I’m not very well known, so thank you for stopping by and taking the time to respond, Vondre’. I don’t even know how you guys found me.

    I’m sorry, you said there were tools that you provided? What were they? All I see are a bunch of PDFs and Word documents with pre-written scripts on how to approach a potential “partner.” I really don’t see those as tools.

    I don’t know about you, but I delete emails like the email script you provided. I mean, when I see “How would you like to earn more money with no effort on your part with your site…” I think, “no, not interested.”

    Then it goes on saying “I work with a company that helps web-site owners make even more money…”… so you’re telling your readers to lie and just pretend they’re working with a company, in which they ARE the company?

    If you think it’s okay to lie.. okay. That’s your business ethics. I honestly don’t have to respect that, but I do accept it.

    You’re teaching people to find forums specifically focused on a certain niche and then contact them about a JV partnership and selling a product to their subscribers you’ll create based on that market. So in other words, even if you don’t know diddly squat about that niche, all you have to do is do some research, write up a BS ebook of about 50 pages and sell it.

    Mnnn, kinda shady to me.

    It’s nice to know that you’re the “Real Deal” and that you wrote “niche fishing and more than 60 other guys…” – I hope that was a typo and you meant ‘guides.’ Thank you for stopping by.

    Maybe some day you’ll hear about me writing another review? I might not be the real deal, but I’m also not the one manually processing sales from my website. Your niche fishing site shows that your PayPal button is not automatically processed, which means you spend the time looking through your emails, verifying the payment, looking for the person and sending them the product via email.

    And a few more mistakes I see is you have your email address available at the bottom of the page to let bots gobble up your email address and send you spam. Good going. Yeah, $750 in that one day is pretty good, but based on a concept of little business ethics and moral values, it’s out of my league. I just can’t top that.

    —–Going back to Dirk—–

    Wow, now I know what you mean. I didn’t get it when you said that, but “Niche Fishing” is actually being sold for $99.97! Jeez… I’ll stop myself there.

  5. Vondre' | January 9, 2007 at 12:37 pm


    “Maybe some day you’ll hear about me writing another review? I might not be the real deal, but I’m also not the one manually processing sales from my website. Your niche fishing site shows that your PayPal button is not automatically processed, which means you spend the time looking through your emails, verifying the payment, looking for the person and sending them the product via email.”

    I have an assistant that sends out a CD snail mail. It’s not always about instant downloads.

    Enough of responding to your blog.

    No one is reading this but you, me, and Dirk.

    Oh…eveyone makes typos, even you.

    Good Success!


  6. Kevin Lam | January 9, 2007 at 2:10 pm

    Vondre’, I just want to apologize. We didn’t get off on the right foot. I understand we all have typos, that’s why I said I hope it was a typo.

    Let’s just drop the whole deal. Thank you for your kind wishes and I hope you’ll have a wonderful year. I hope to be able to write as many guides as you. That in itself is an achievement and I’d like to get there as well.

    Take care and best wishes.

  7. Angela | January 9, 2007 at 5:09 pm

    I have a great deal of respect for people that think about their customers before they think of the dollars their “product” is going to make. I appreciate the time that Kevin Lam took to actually try the service AND to share his opinion which he is entitled to have. It’s amazing to me that if the product were any good the makers and creators wouldn’t feel such a need to defend themselves. A good product will speak for itself.

    Thanks for your honest feedback Kevin. I will NOT be purchasing anything from these two men EVER.

  8. John | January 10, 2007 at 3:23 pm


    Just ignore them. Naturally people are going to be a bit put out when you call their bluff.

    “Crap by any other name still stinks.”

    I hope your 2007 is a great one. It’s the year of AMAZING blessings!

    It definitely is. It’s the year that people finally rise up and start saying no to mindless dribble that the ‘goo-goos’ have been dumping on people for years.

    Keep up the good work Kevin. Remember there are more like you out there that are starting to say the same thing.


  9. Michael | January 25, 2007 at 5:15 am

    lol, are you kidding me. Vondre I have never heard of you or Dirk either. So what’s the point. I find it odd that you have to comment on here and instead of giving explanations and telling us the purpose behind your thinking, you instead feel defensive and try to take shots which is simply unprofessional.

    Oh, and just because you have not heard of Kevin does not mean you can take his criticism to heart, because if don’t know him now, you certainly will in the future, and with his demeanor, he won’t try to rub it in your face.

    Kind of amazing you are even reading this right, considering that no one else even reads this blog but you, Dirk, and Kevin huh.

    The typos, yes, everyone makes them, but if you are looking to give something to the community that is worth while, wouldn’t you want to have it prepared properly so there are no typos or errors. Hmph, but don’t take my word for it , because you’ve never heard of me either………………………….

  10. Michelle Brouse | January 27, 2007 at 5:26 am

    Hi Kevin,

    I’ve been working my tail off here – and don’t even know how I came across this blog. I think it was from an email – to FAN – to here, to “more comments”. Holy cats – a bit SIDE-TRACKED maybe?

    Anyhow, I have heard of both names above – but not yours yet. No biggie – names are nothing without knowing the personalities behind the names. I don’t really have any other comment other than these:

    You never know who you’re going to run into – never know who you’re talking to, and never know who is watching you. That’s not meant in any way other than fact. It is what it is.

    I also respect your opinion because you LOOKED at the product. Yes, you took the time to buy it, try it – look at it, read it – and that says a whole lot about you. Personally, I am the very same way. I have recommended a couple things in my time that I didn’t check out before hand – and it left me at a total loss on how to explain the product. After all, if I’m going to recommend something to my list, or to other folks I know – hadn’t I better know what the heck I’m talking about? 🙂

    You go on with your bad self there dude, I’ll keep an eye out for you. Matter of fact – I think I’ll go sign up for whatever it was I was originally looking at that had to do with being a FAN – just because of this blog. Go figure. Better take a lesson here from the “newbie.”


  11. bob | August 3, 2007 at 7:20 pm

    well….having had an ‘exprience’ with Vondre, I can attest to the fact that he is full of it . He convinced me to purchase into one of his ‘programs’ for 50 bux. This was to be a newspaper of sorts that would have national and local ads to support the ‘member’s…that is what we were called.

    I think he conned about 15 of us into doing this…tried to get a forum going, which WE attended but he seemed to miss all the time….so the project failed. after nine months I ask for a refund and he refused.

    so , seems this serial entreprenuer (?) doesnt live up to his promsies, does not fulfill his contracts, and then does not refund the money …and all along, I thought he was making some much moolah he couldnt keep a count on it.

    If I had been Vondre…or Voncorp…I would simply send the guy his money and avoid any internet turmoil.

    Do not get involved with this guy…ever…never …not even for free.

    Feel free to contact me should you need more details.

    thanks Kevin. I like your style ….and I agree whole heartedly …that no one should be selling jnformation that he/she has not personally explored and investigated.

    hell…if you need a couple of bux, email me . I will send you something… 😉

  12. nar321 | December 21, 2007 at 12:29 am

    Vondre based on his actions towards Kevin should be ignored as he doesn’t know to respond to a review, comment, or whatever you care to call it

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